Kel-Tec has made some pretty significant changes to its folding 9mm carbine, the SUB-2000, now releasing a Gen 2 version. Despite the additional features and upgrades. Let me tell you a short story about and Ivor Johnson that my son found, My parent bought the home they live in in 1977 and to mark the land they bought railroad ties. Kel Tec P3at Serial Numbers. Analysis of Taurus 7. At least on TFB, the Taurus 7. TCP has been controversial with my blog post about it generating over 2.

Has made some pretty significant changes to its folding 9mm carbine, the SUB-2000, now releasing a Gen 2 version. Despite the additional features and upgrades, it’s apparently easier to manufacture and production is doubling. Also new and already beginning to ship out is the Kel-Tec, the matching carbine to the PMR-30 pistol.

I’m excited to get my hands on one of those as soon as possible, as I own a PMR-30 (review ) and six mags, an AAC Element 2 suppressor, and almost 1,000 rounds of.22 WMR so I’m ready to put it to the test! Gen2 SUB-2000 and CMR-30 video tours with Kris from Kel-Tec, plus some photos and highlights follow... SUB-2000 Gen2 Changes: • Front sight accepts AR-15 front sight posts, is adjustable for windage and elevation, and removes to expose 1/2×28 barrel threads on 9mm versions and 9/16×24 on.40 S&W. • New handguard with top and bottom rails plus Magpul M-LOK slots on the sides • 40% larger ejection port • More ergonomic grip • 3-position adjustable buttstock • More sling attachment options • When folded, it’s locked on the picatinny rail rather than the front sight post • Addition of version for M&P magazines • Better safety detent • Production volume up from 200-300 per week to 500-700 units • MSRP $450-$500.

CMR-30 Notable Features: • It weighs just 3.8 lbs. Felt incredibly light and maneuverable • Same 30-round polymer mags as PMR-30, which employ a pretty.

• Ambi, non-reciprocating charging handles. • 1/2×28 threaded barrel • Comes with Magpul MBUS • 4-position collapsible stock • “Ever so fantastic” I asked Kris if it was accurate enough to justify me slapping on that new that I picked up and shooting it from a rest for groups at 50 or 100 yards. An enthusiastic “oh absolutely!” was the response, so I’ll definitely be doing that for the review with 3 or 4 brands of.22 Mag.

Yeah they did do a barrel redesign that made the gun more reliable. Although I have never heard of explosions, there were certainly issues with some of them running well.

I own a V1, though, and put like 400 rounds through it with a couple of FTEjects before e-mailing Kel-Tec when I found out there was a new, improved barrel. They had it in the mail to me the next day along with a few other parts. No questions asked other than what my serial number was. I didn’t have to return the old barrel. Was pretty happy about that. It has run flawlessly with the new barrel ever since.

The pistol has been highly reliable for me and it’s a ton of fun to shoot. Good trigger, too. That said, I wouldn’t use it for defensive purposes because I don’t trust rimfire ammo. The only times my PMR has stopped was with dud rounds.

I think maybe 3 or 4 times I came across rounds with no primer in the rim. This is way, way less as a percentage than I find with.22 LR, but it still happens. So RE your comment that these guns will never be reliable enough for self defense, I’d say NO rimfire (at least.22 LR and.22 WMR there are some with thicker rims that might be better) is thanks to the ammo, not the gun. I have never seen one in the “real world” either. I purchased a Glock.40 version from a buddy of mine; paid $600 cash for the gun, seven 22 rd factory Glock mags, 2 10 rd factory Glock mags, 200rds of ball ammo, 50rds of HPs, and a bugout bag to put it all in. After doing a quick cost analysis, I deemed that I had a “spare” $600 to spend on something so cool and unique. The thing doesn’t even have 1,000 rounds through it yet, so I consider it a fair deal.

Unfortunately, I still have a few hundred bucks to sink into it, making it even “cooler” and a bit more quiet. I can say that it is a blast to shoot, and those.40 cal rounds got some grease on ’em.I blew a few arms off the steel paddle targets at a local range. Loads of fun! There’s a difference between supply and demand driving up prices and dealers buying them $100 above MSRP from more honest shops and then listing them on GB for $400 above msrp.

The first transaction should make it to end user without taking advantage of the situation. It’s like those a-holes who would line up at Walmart every Tuesday morning at 4:55AM to clear the.22lr and sell it instantly for a 3x profit. The gun community is the first to turn on each other in the name of a quick buck. And that’s what I don’t like. I agree 100% Stinkeye, but face it: there is a LARGE contingent of gun owners who feel as though the economic laws of supply and demand either don’t or shouldn’t apply to them. It’s classic entitlement mentality, which is ironic seeing as how most of these same people will complain about entitlement mentality in other contexts. They’re simply blind to their own entitlement mentality.

Folks, you are never owed or entitled to a certain price on someone else’s property. If you don’t like their asking price, don’t buy. Free marketshow do they work again??? To me this sounds like a sweet survival combo. The PMR-30 weighs nothing (13 oz), the CMR-30 weighs nothing (3.8 lbs), the magazines are light as a feather (1.6 oz unloaded, 6 oz loaded to 30), the ammo is incredibly light, and the CMR collapses to a really small length.

I only have 6 mags now, but if I buy a CMR I suppose that’ll likely come with 2 so that’s 8 total loaded that’s 240 rounds in mags. Another 500 rounds only weighs 4.6 lbs and doesn’t take up much space, either. I think the only downside is that the pistol won’t operate with a suppressor on it. Well and rimfire ammo isn’t super reliable. I’ve always had much better success with.22 WMR than with.22 LR for whatever reason, but have still run into a couple duds that appeared to have no primer in the rim. I’d have a hard time staking my life on any firearm in.22 WMR for this sole reason, regardless of how good the gun itself was. Of course, I’ve had as many dud primers with centerfire rounds as well, but they were all steel-cased Russian pistol rounds.

I think the caliber is sufficient. Especially with the capacity and how quickly and accurately it can be fired. But again, I don’t trust rimfire primer reliability enough. I’d consider these for the zombie apocalypse though. I mean, in that scenario it has to be head shots anyway, right? CMR from the rooftop, baby. A couple thousand rounds weighs under 20 lbs, with the accuracy and energy to reach out a couple hundred yards (.22 WMR has more energy at 100 yards than.22 LR at the muzzle).

The PMR on the hip, CMR on a sling combo has to be the ideal zombie setup*. The PMR even has a mount for an optic so run a small reflex sight on that and a scope on the CMR and you’ve got it covered. 30 rounds in each plus like 10 loaded mags on your person and you’ll keep that zombie hoard at bay 😉 BTW Kris in the videos there said he’s been hog hunting with his CMR for a couple months now.

Head shots = instantly deceased porkers. *possibly it’s the Five-seveN and PS90, depending on one’s budget and how much ammo is owned. That ammo would be a lot harder to find in the wild, I’d guess, than.22 WMR though (although obviously at this moment.22 mag is pretty scarce still, it hasn’t been historically). The ProMag 30-rounder actually works pretty darn well IF you put a factory CZ or a MecGar follower in it (or I’m sure the CZ Custom follower would be great). The mag body and spring seem to be just fine, but the ProMag follower is junk.

I do like the blue MG ones with the “anti friction coating” on them, and have had a ProMag stick running totally fine since the day I swapped the follower out for that one (and it refused to function prior to that). There’s also a factory CZ 26-round magazine for the standard (not Tactical Sports) 75 frames. They’re pretty darn different, honestly.

The MT has some advantages like it isn’t a firearm so it can ship right to your door, and it’s readily available. It’s also metal and pretty stout and reliable and very solidly built.

And very accurate. You can do more customization with the AR stock adapter and all of the rail options. The SUB2K has advantages as well, of course, in that it’s lighter, it folds in half, it is a complete firearm so you could use your G19 and the SUB2K at the same time (whereas on the MT you put your Glock frame onto it so your pistol is out of commission at that time although you could buy just a Glock assembled frame on gunbroker for like $170), it now has a factory-threaded barrel, etc. I think it’s handier for a pack rifle but it does feel more like a survival gun whereas the MT feels solid like a true rifle.

The Sub2k is plenty accurate though for sure. So they’re different. I played with both versions at the KT booth at SHOT, and it’s definitely super cool but it’ll have to become widely available for me to think it’s a good deal.

MSRP is one hundred bucks less than you can find a Tavor for at a good sale price (close to $1,700). Software For Iomega External Hard Drive. Now I know (and I harass people for this all the time) that comparing the MSRP from one company to the low street price from another is totally bogus, but with the historical scarcity of some of the KT products it can be hard to find them as low as MSRP and often the market is actually demanding a premium above and beyond MSRP.

If I’m looking at a very similar price between a Tavor and an RDB it would be a tough sell to make me go RDB. That really isn’t a knock on the RDB, as it seemed quite nice, but the Tavor has a really solid rep for a good reason and it’s an amazing firearm.

Well guys, I have 4 pmr30’s (had 6 sold one to a buddy and trade one for a glock 23c, 250 rounds of ammo,a lazerlyte sight mount, holster and 100 bucks cash. 3 have been fired), a gen 1 sub2000 glock 9mm (had 2 sold one) an excel arms 22 mag, and just bought the gen 2 sub2000 glock 40 for 439.oo. Love the kel-tec guns. The excel arms is very picky on ammo, loves armscor ammo the best. My kel-tec is one of my carry guns.people on forums always ask why carry a 22 magnumber one, it’s light and you forget it’s there, 2.And number 1, 30 rounds people. If the first one doesn’t get you, there’s 29 more coming at you. Number 3.it will go thru a class 2 vest and into ballistic gel.

Did I mention 30 rounds. With an extra 2 clips on me, that’s 90 rounds all around 3 lbs total. Bad guy better bring a Snickers, he’s gonna be there awhile eating lead appetizers.

I really need the cmr too. I have six ruger 10/22’s, every configuration they’ve made so far and a Henry golden boy lever action 22 mag (28yrs old never been fired).

Needless to say, I love rimfire guns. I have many others including a calico m100 (spaceballs the movie) pistol (also the 9mm pistol and carbine versions).

So oddball guns are my passion and kel-tec makes great ones. Believe me, you won’t be disappointed in any of them.

Kel-tec 380 p3at is my pocket gun over my ruger lcp380 due to having 2 extra 10 rounds mags for it (or was till I just bought my sig p938 9mm). So what is my point? Get some kel-tecs, you’ll love them. No matter the price, you won’t regret getting one. And I have cz’s, glock’s, s&w, ruger, excel arms, high point, calico, Springfield arms, rock island, para, and many other brands, I can’t recall, in both pistol and rifle/ar styles. Most have never been fired.

But they’re all mechanical and any of them can have flaws and problems. Send them back and get them fixed, simple as that. Kel-tec stand behind their products. Well guys, I have 4 pmr30’s (had 6 sold one to a buddy and trade one for a glock 23c, 250 rounds of ammo,a lazerlyte sight mount, holster and 100 bucks cash. (3 have never been fired), a gen 1 sub2000 glock 9mm (had 2 sold one) an excel arms 22 mag, and just bought the gen 2 sub2000 glock 40 for 439.oo.

Love the kel-tec guns. The excel arms is very picky on ammo, loves armscor ammo the best. My kel-tec is one of my carry guns.people on forums always ask why carry a 22 magnumber one, it’s light and you forget it’s there, 2.And number 1, 30 rounds people.

If the first one doesn’t get you, there’s 29 more coming at you. Number 3.it will go thru a class 2 vest and into ballistic gel. Did I mention 30 rounds. With an extra 2 clips on me, that’s 90 rounds all around 3 lbs total. Bad guy better bring a Snickers, he’s gonna be there awhile eating lead appetizers. I really need the cmr too. Free Cheats Candy Crush Saga Unlimited Lives Moves Boosters Download.

I have six ruger 10/22’s, every configuration they’ve made so far and a Henry golden boy lever action 22 mag (28yrs old never been fired) a lever action 22lr made in 1897 and my dad’s first 22 lever action single shot (crackshot) he paid 50 cents for. Needless to say, I love rimfire guns. I have many others including a calico m100 (spaceballs the movie) pistol (also the 9mm pistol and carbine versions).

So oddball guns are my passion and kel-tec makes great ones. Believe me, you won’t be disappointed in any of them. Kel-tec 380 p3at is my pocket gun over my ruger lcp380 due to having 2 extra 10 rounds mags for it (or was till I just bought my sig p938 9mm). So what is my point? Get some kel-tecs, you’ll love them. No matter the price, you won’t regret getting one. And I have cz’s, glock’s, s&w, ruger, excel arms, high point, calico, Springfield arms, rock island, para, dpms, seiga and many other brands, I can’t recall, in both pistol and rifle/ar styles.

Most have never been fired. But they’re all mechanical and any of them can have flaws and problems.

Send them back and get them fixed, simple as that. Kel-tec stand behind their products.

You can call keltec and they will tell you what the latest serial numbers are The Kel-Tec serial numbers are a modified 34base. *The KT system doesn't use 'I' and 'O' since they would be confussed with '1' and '0'. *Also the two least significant places are base 10.

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